Most teams have their 2013 non-conference football schedules set, but there are eight teams that still need one game: Duke, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Marshall, Tulane, BYU, Missouri, and Texas State.
In addition, there will be four teams from the Mountain West that can play a 13-game schedule (5 non-conference games) based on the Hawaii Exemption. Under that rule, teams that play at Hawaii have the option of adding a 13th game to offset travel costs.
USC plays a non-conference game at Hawaii in 2013 and has scheduled 13 games. Colorado State, a MWC team, has been notified that they play at Hawaii, so the Rams have scheduled five non-conference games in 2013.
Army also plays at Hawaii in 2013, but their officially announced schedule includes only 12 games. It’s certainly possible that the Black Knights could be persuaded into adding a game, for the right price of course.
Let’s take a look at the eight teams that currently need one 2013 non-conference game:
at Memphis, Navy, NC Central
Duke already has one FCS game scheduled (NC Central). The Blue Devils likely don’t want to schedule a 2nd FCS team because only one win counts towards bowl eligibility.
Penn State (at E. Rutherford, NJ), at Northwestern, Tulane
Syracuse needs one non-conference game and has the option of adding an FCS team.
at Army, at Vanderbilt, vs. Presbyterian
Wake Forest needs one game but already has an FCS team (Presbyterian) slated for 2013. Yesterday, it was reported that Wake could play Old Dominion. The Monarchs will be classified as an FCS Independent in 2013, which would give the Demon Deacons two FCS opponents in 2013.
Miami (OH), at Ohio, at Virginia Tech
Marshall has an opening on their slate and could fill it with an FCS team.
South Alabama, ULM, at Syracuse
Tulane needs one game and doesn’t have an FCS team currently scheduled.
Home: Texas, Utah, Georgia Tech, Boise State, Middle Tennessee
Road: Virginia, Utah State, Houston, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Hawaii
The Cougars, an FBS Independent, need one home game to complete their 2013 schedule. They can also add a 13th game since they play at Hawaii. An FCS foe is certainly an option because one is not currently scheduled.
Murray State, Toledo, at Indiana
Missouri is the only SEC team with an unfinished 2013 football schedule. The Tigers already have an FCS opponent (Murray State), so they hope to schedule an FBS team for either Sept. 14, Sept. 28 or Nov. 16.
at Southern Miss, at Texas Tech, Wyoming
Texas State, which moves over to the Sun Belt in 2013, needs one game and doesn’t have an FCS team scheduled.
Update (Tues., Jan. 15.)
Texas State has reportedly scheduled Prairie View A&M for their fourth non-conference opponent in 2013. Tulane is rumored to be hosting Jackson State on Aug. 31, which would complete their schedule.
Tweets from BYU A.D. Tom Holmoe on Friday seem to indicate that the Cougars have completed their 2013 schedule.
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Has New Mexico State every confirmed if there really playing Abilene Christian in 2013?
NMSU hasn’t confirmed much of anything. Most of their 2013 schedule comes from other school releases. They ABCU game is stil tentative.
Colorado St @ Hawaii isn’t a non conference game for either school. They’re both MWC teams.
Thanks, oversight on my part. Edited the article to reflect that.
According to “those in the know” on Texas St message boards, the Bobcats will host FCS team Prairie View A&M next year.
Let me suggest on Sept 7 Texas State vs New Mexico State and Minnesota vs Wake Forest. Minnesota’s schedule is not finalize.
Minnesota is at New Mexico State on Sept. 7. All but official.
https://fbschedules.com/2012/11/minnesota-new-mexico-state-2013-14-home-and-home-football-series/
NMSU can’t give up home games, they need five.
Of all the teams listed, it looks like Missouri, Tulane and TX State will be content with a road game. I am sure the others would prefer a home game unless things get desperate.
Let me suggest Tulane @ Duke on 8/31; Texas State @ BYU on 9/14, Missouri @ Wake forest (with a Mizzou home game or two in a future season) on 9/14 and Syracuse @ Marshall (again with a return game or two) on 9/28.
However, I suspect many of these teams will add FCS games.
There have been a lot of rumblings in the AD’s office in Columbia for months of the Tigers going to BYU in 2013 and them playing a return game in 2014 or 2015 @ Mizzou’s option. I would be ok with that, also wouldn’t mind seeing the Syracuse series continue.
I have heard the same on sports radio about BYU wanting their home game to be in November 2013, not in the preseason and that is the sticking point being in thick of our SEC schedule. One other issue, not huge to overcome is the Tigers don’t want the return date till 2015 or 2016. Missouri is willing to return to Provo in 2014, but only if BYU will first play here in 2013. It would be a good name opponent and a team we should beat.
BYU will not schedule another road game in 2013, unless there is a cancellation of one of their current road games Mizzou will play in Provo in 2013 if the game happens. BYU already has a tough enough schedule as it currently stands.
Come on Nebraska! Schedule Tulane, Syracuse or Duke and drop South Dakota State. We can go on the road to one these schools (the rest of Nebraska’s OOC games are at home) and they can return in 2014 when we drop McNeese State.
According to the Sagarin ratings, last year Duke was #73 and South Dakota St was #79. They are virtually the same level of competition. Either Duke or SD St. would be 2 touchdown favorites over #155 Tulane.
I agree Nebraska should drop SDSU, but only to play a major conference team like Missouri, Syracuse or Wake Forrest. Agree completely: major conference teams w/8 home games cheat their fans even more. Understand that Nebraska didn’t set their schedule up this year for that, but since they have the liberty, they should go after another road game to get a good home game in down the line. Missouri can return a home game in 2017, which is soon enough.
Love the article.
They were talking about the SU home schedule on WSYR last week and the guy said SU is trying to get BYU to come to the Dome this September and do a home/home/neutral with the neutral game in East Rutherford. Sounds like a good deal for us H & H and our neutral game is just a few hours down the road. They said that the game at BYU would also be on ESPN because it would be a “contract game.”
BYU already has their toughest schedule ever in 2013, I don’t see a 7th road game in the cards.
With 8 teams needing nonconference games couldn’t they just schedule each other? Would love to see Marshall and Duke or Marshall and wake.
It’s not that easy. Due to conference schedules, these 8 teams may not have the same open dates.
Has Minnesota and New Mexico State officially approved their game in 2013? I think Minnesota’s AD has had second thought due to the lash back in the Twin Cities when he dropped North Carolina.
I have a hunch that Missouri will be in Provo on 9/28 (or 9/14). Neither school seems at all concerned about their 12th game, not talking to anybody for awhile, and they have matching open slots.
When will FBS teams start being penalized for scheduling FCS schools? Purists like to point out that every game is like a playoff game in college football, but if that is the case, a game against a lesser division team really does not fill the goal of trying to determine worthy bowl/playoff teams at the end of the season. It’s like an NFL team playing a CFL team during as a regular season game. If FBS teams only played FBS teams, we would get a more fair and measurable test of deserving teams when it comes bowl/playoff time.
They will never be penalized for it. If 100 teams that play an FCS have to stop those games, their are two consequences.
A—100 FCS teams lose big paydays.
B—50 FBS teams lose home games and now have to go on the road.
Duke vs. Tulane, Syracuse vs. Marshall, Wake Forest vs. BYU, Missouri vs. Texas State.
Wake Forest has matching dates with BYU, would LOVE to see BYU come out here. We already are on the road at Vanderbilt and Army next year, so we couldn’t go to Provo or we would be down to 5 home games and 7 road games :(
PLEASE SCHEDULE THIS!!!
Technically, they may not have matching dates. Those dates for WF could be reserved for ACC games.
BYU will need will need either 9/14 or 9/28 for Hawaii if 12/7 is the MWC championship game. Which would leave BYU willing to take a stretch for a decent opponent on 11/30 or 12/7 but WF has Vanderbilt and the ACC title game.
@Deacongirl,
BYU has 5 home games scheduled in 2013 and 6 road games.
If they go on the road to WF, or anywhere else they will have 5 home and 7 road games.
In response to Bill. If FBS teams played only other FBS teams, they could still have big payouts in lieu of a home and home series. The money would be kept within the FBS division. The FCS teams would have to adjust. The idea is not to punish teams, the idea is to make every game count, and to make the playing field as level as possible.
If there is no FCS games then what of teams from the sun belt or lower end c-usa or MAC teams? They cannot recruit as well as the BCS teams.(Sun Belt teams are in Big 12 and SEC footprints. Mac is in Big ten and C-usa is in SEC, Big 12 and acc territory.) Personally you would be hurting those teams more then anything. The FCS games allow these schools to become bowl eligible and have a chance on a nationally televised game. When was the last time you saw a sun belt regular season football game on tv? They had 4 teams in bowl games this year. They get money and more exposure due to having those teams play 1 FCS team a year. I would expand it so that any FCS team could be played not just the ones with a minimum requirement of scholarships.
Though i due agree on having a team play 2 FCS teams a year.(like Florida state this year.)Though it wasn’t Florida states falt.
Tom:
FCS teams generally only require 1/3rd the payout as SunBelt/MAC teams for guarantee games. Why should, say, Mizzou care about “keeping the money in FBS”? They don’t garner any benefit from sending the money to a MAC school instead of an FCS school.
This is my favorite piece I have read on this site.
Thanks Kasey!
BYU has said they have game 12. Is it true and if so vs. who. Also, any rumors on other scheduling news
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So will BYU play 12 or use the Hawaii exception and play 13? I am hoping for 13 and get the extra home game, even if you play 6 home and 7 away this team needs an SEC foe with open dates, book Missouri!
If the MWC takes SDSU, Hawaii will move from 12/7 and I do not expect BYU to play 13 straight weeks through 11/23 and then finish. 99% positive they keep a bye between Boise and Wisconsin.
Missouri’s was 8 in a row bowl game qualifier before 2012 where they lost three games by less than a score and didn’t get that 6th win. Missouri’s first goal this year has to be staying in contention for the SEC east till the last week of the regular season. After that it is bowl qualification i.e.. 8 out of nine years would still be very impressive. Having said this Missouri will not risk a brawl with a top 40 team for their 12th game. They would like Army, or Texas Tech for the Texas exposure, or Duke/Wake Forrest for the eastern exposure, Tulane and Marshall would be default choices, BYU is not needed to make their schedule sound top 40ish, you can be sure they will not make this choice and you can be sure that BYU does not want to risk another team that could open up a can of whoop-posterior on them like a couple of the ones they already have scheduled. It this game gets scheduled it will be good for the fans who can only go to one game next year but somebody is going to regret scheduling it big time.
I have heard the BYU rumors too, but it looks like we are actually doing is scheduling these non conference teams to get bowl eligible (@ Indiana and home dates with Toledo and Murray State????) My guess is we will add Marshall or Texas St, hopefully at home and try to get to 4-0 in the preseason, and hope for a couple of SEC victories. Maybe the home game vs Tennessee and at Kentucky and get to a bowl. Scheduling a BYU or any other team that went bowling last year and thumped their opponents doesn’t make any sense for us at this point.
one more thought, we already have Florida, South Carolina and A&M but that being said, it would be cool to see another “name” team like a BYU or a Syracuse at Faurot this year.
It won’t be Mizzou. UNLV is going to expand the BYU series to 4 games. Two additional dates would have BYU @ UNLV in 2013 and UNLV @ BYU in 2016.
I have heard this same thing, but with the Rebels coming to LES first.
I like this, would rather see UNLV in Provo but add a FCS Team and you’ll have 6 home and 7 away. Some fun road trips for fans to Las Vegas, Houston, Virginia, Wisconsin, Hawaii and Notre Dame.
They talked for a long time of allowing FBS vs FCS scrimmages where you play a scrimmage or two in August giving the FCS school a decent payout and sell tickets to your fans for the game. This would still allow FCS schools to make some money and FBS fans to get to see 12 real games a year. It would also encourage some better FCS vs FCS matchups since they would not be playing the body bag game.
Also what is the scoop on the strength of schedule component as this would help if they penalize you for playing a D1AA opponent.
I like BYU’s series with UNLV and wouldn’t mind seeing it turn into a 4-year deal. But I think I would rather see a one-and-done with Tulane or Texas State in 2013. (or both!) BYU could use another easy win at home in 2013 without a future road trip commitment.
The one thing that is concrete is BYU will pay to bring in 1AA Southern Utah as their FBS game next year. There has been way too much smoke on this one, to not call it a fire.
Bulldog on am 610 was going over the missing game on the Mizzou schedule, a guy called in and said he has a buddy on the team and that they were told last week that they are playing the BYU team at Arrowhead in 2013. He said his buddy said it was the part of a bigger deal and and Missouri would travel to Utah next year and then BYU would play at Faurot Field the next year. Said his friend was ticked because he is a junior and he won’t be there for the home game, but was excited about the game at Arrowhead.
Another guy called in later and confirmed he heard about the same game through a relative in the athletic department, but said he was told it would be at Edward Jones Dome.
Although personally I wish that they were playing at the CarrierDome against Cuse, I hope this rumor is true. That would give the Cougs 1 SEC opponent, 2 ACC (UVA and G. Tech), 1 Big-12 (Texas), 1 Pac-12 (Utah), 1 B1G (Wisconsin), 1 Big East (Houston), 1 Indy (Notre Dame), 3 Mountain West (possibly 4 if the AFA rumors are true), and 1 Sun Belt. This is what I was hoping for when we went Indy. Here’s hoping that conference realignment doesn’t ruin the trend.
Game would have to be on 9/28 as 9/14 at Arrowhead is already scheduled for another game: http://www.lubluetigers.com/news/2012/8/8/FB_0808120946.aspx
As a Cougar fan, I would love the idea of playing Mizzou. However, I think that playing Mizzou on the road in 2013 won’t happen unless BYU has another unannounced home game in the pocket and plans to play 13 games this year. BYU, so far, has only 5 home games scheduled, and they need one more.
Boise State is being told to leave the weekedn of December 7th open for the WAC Championship game, The commissioner has told all teams not to schedule non conference games that week. Hawaii is backing out that same week against BYU. Because of that, BYU can’t add a 13th game and it opens up a road game somewhere else. Add your 1AA team at home, add this Missouri game and you are at 6 home and 6 away.
The AFA will Play @ BYU in 2013. They have been told by Craig Thompson that they are one of the teams going to go to play at Hawaii in 2013 and has let BYU know they are interested in a two game series, AFA wants their home game to be in 2015 as they already have 7 home games this year, have their non-conference filled up in 2014 and would be using BYU to replace their cancelled 2015 game with Cincinnati.
Craig Thompson is still furious about the UNLV/BYU deal signed late last year, and by notifying The AFA he essentially gave them an extra game to let this BYU series happen. BYU has also been in talks with SDSU and Colorado State to fill in some November games. Add the long term series with Boise State and BYU has the scheduling agreement with the MWC that Thompson has been spending the last 24 months trying to stop.
Is this really a done deal?
CALLING MY SHOT.
Just got off the phone with a friend fairly high in the BYU Athletic Department, He is normally very tight lipped about these and then will tell me the specifics after they are announced. I asked him point blank “is BYU going to play Syracuse, Missouri or Air Force this year?” He laughed and said, “Keep guessing, You know I can’t tell you who it is… But as a fan, I am excited about it and as a season ticket holder you will be thrilled with the final additions to the 2013 schedule.”
So excited to see who it is, but it looks like it won’t be MO, AFA or SU :(
Calling this shot: looking like a mw team that would bring in tickets to be scheduled. Best team that fits is Fresno, who hosted Hawaii last year. BYU vs fresno would be most logical
I was told this morning it was done.
Just posted an update to this article. Summary at bottom of this article.
Looks like either duke or wf will be going 2 BYU. ODU said they’re negotiating with an acc school, most likely Syracuse.
ODU has been in negotiations with WFU and will be playing at Wake Forrest this year according to The Demo Deacon’s scout.com chat board
Missouri could play Duke 9/28/13 or 11/16/13
9/07/13 DUKE IS AT Memphis (Missouri’s only other week off
The BYU speculation is interesting but remember not all great ideas result in games or schedule changes. Last year at this time we were excited over BYU at Notre Dame moving to December 1, 2012.
I am not going to lie, that was a great day ;)
Biiiiggg news. MTSU and FAU will join c-USA next year. This from @patrick_magee
Aka put every sunbelt team on the list of needing a ooc game
Except there aren’t enough FBS games available. If this happens, the SBC teams will have to play FCS or each other.
Or hurried promotion of app state and ga southern
Anyone else notice 3 ACC schools on this list? Think the ACC could have kept 9 conference games for this year, just so schools didn’t have to scramble to fill the hole? ND isn’t coming to the league for another year.
Looks like BYU at Hawaii 9-14, Idaho st at BYU 11-16, MTSU at BYU 11-30. Would make alternating road and home games for BYU in three four game segments separated by byes. Measured approach to toughest schedule ever.
from everything i hear on syracuse its 95% sure the game we need will be an fcs team since we have to have another home game after having less home games last yr than normal
the reason the acc went back to 8 games wasnt strickly for nd it was for teams that play sec teams yearly
Nevada at BYU? I had been thinking the two schools ended relations with the Nevada and Fresno to the MWC fiasco of 2010.
Shame on Tulane. Their AD is a complete zero. Jackson State, ULM, South Alabama; sounds as if Tulane has no aspirations and no desire to bring itself anywhere close to its SEC days. And the moronic 25,000 proposed new stadium. Idiotic. Fire the AD. Now.
you do realize both ULM and Syracuse were bowl teams last year thats 2 tougher non conf games, everyone plays a few easy ones.
Any news yet as to who will be Wake’s last non-conference game?
i read on wake forest scout board that they are playing louisiana monroe at home on 9/14 as there last non conference game